-: I was at an all girls school
typical of those days,
and the careers teacher,
the only career I could go into doing technical subjects
was being a teacher, and there's nothing wrong with that,
or a nurse, and there's nothing wrong with that.
But you notice it was a nurse, not a doctor,
that I was recommended.
Things have changed a bit I think.
-: I think they have.
Definitely have.
I sometimes find it quite hard to understand
that some people still think it's not
a careers for girls, or girls are put off.
But I think because for me it was so normalized,
it never crossed my mind that
if that's what I wanted to do I couldn't do it.
I think the other thing for me as an engineer,
I studied it because I had an actual aptitude for it
but also as a fallback, because originally
I wanted to be a pilot, and I was too small.
It's offered me a wonderful career
and actually if you asked me now and said,
well now's your opportunity to be a pilot,
I actually wouldn't change it.
-: I would agree with that.
(laughing)