-: There was a lot of technical aspect to it,
but ultimately, we're talking about
the highest level of workload and the highest level of skill
that's required to do these things.
And as I went up through being an instructor on fighters,
you got to a place where you were taking people out
and delivering some fairly high intensity training,
which required an element of bravery,
an element of madness I would say,
and to be at the top of your own game, of course,
which was really important.
So, again, I was very proud to be able to deliver that
to people, to give them their first experience
air-to-air refueling, to give them their first experience
flying at about the height of an electricity pylon
in pitch darkness at 600 miles an hour.