Yeah. So I'd say,
I say I realized I was probably different
but obviously couldn't,
You'll know what that meant.
And then, yeah.
So when I was a teenager,
there was no one around me who was gay.
There was no representation
I was in a very small town.
Very small village,
in fact, you know.
When I was at college, it was, you know,
HIV was still
So there was a lot of bad press around,
gay being gay and,
it was kind of,
So it was,
it was used as a putdown, really. So.
So yeah, that was,
that was the no positive reinforcement,
at the time, for that at all.
So yeah.
So I knew it was,
And then,
when I was at RAF Newark,
I met my, yeah, my first girlfriend
police training, which is probably not
Is it really,
but yeah, but that's how it was. And,
some things you can't control and can’t
help can you? So,
And you know that that was lovely.
The relationship was just wonderful.
But,
but we were acutely aware
it couldn't hide it
couldn't demonstrate it at all.
But they had an inkling.
So they had an inkling and, at the,
training school and
I remember, one of the female trainers
we were doing kind of
self-defense, so we had to do role play.
So, like, there was a drunk that we had
that kind of thing.
And, I remember her,
Kind of saying,
you know, that women had fought
to get the recognition and respect
So they didn't want anyone
with any other nature coming along and,
you know, affecting that.
So that was very much,
hold of kind of what they,
It was a very,